32 Yr. Old Losing Hope After One IUI Miscarriage and One IVF Chemical Pregnancy: I Say Don't Give Up!!!
Posted Apr 08 2013 10:09am
even know how to begin because my infertility process has been so exhausting. I
am 32 and trying since early 2011 with a specialist since early 2012. I
suppose I have diminished ovarian reserve. My last FSH check was 8.5. My
AMH is 1. My stimulation cycles response seem to change--one time will be a
nice response and the subsequent ones won't be. I started my first IVF this year and I fear repeating the same pattern
as last year. Last year, my first IUI on 75 follistim/femara produced 4 mature
eggs. I conceived, hcg was high, but ultimately a miscarriage due to trisomy 3.
Did a complete RPL work up (I had a chemical pregnancy unmedicated 6 mos
earlier). Nothing was abnormal, even karotyping.
two more IUIs after that, producing 2 eggs, then only 1 egg. No success. I
battled recurrent simple follicular cysts for about six months (would bounce
from one ovary to next, two cyst aspirations and they would still come back)
and finally had a cystectomy and laparoscopy in early February 2013. He found
very mild endometriosis and treated it. I had started birth control pills in
early January, on for 5 weeks, and then carried on with an antagonist protocol
later in February with 150 follistim/75menopur. My day 4 E2 was over 700,
thought I had another cyst, but instead had several follicles, dropped
follistim to 75, then E2 dropped to 500, then up to 100 follistim and
eventually my growth balanced out. Ultimately, I had 14 follices, 12 mature, 9
eggs retrieved, 6 fertilized, 4 day 3 embryos, then 2 highest grade
blastocysts, 1 morula. Transferred the two blasts. Positive beta, 175 14 days
after transfer. But my 48 hour beta dropped to 77. So I'm having another
chemical pregnancy/miscarriage. This is exactly a year from my last
terrified that in continuing IVF I will repeat this same pattern--that the next
IVFs will not work. I just don't know
what to do. I don't want to be 32 and have bad eggs when I know I don't
have a translocation. I feel like I do respond to lower doses of medications,
which should be indicative of decent reserve, but I don't know why I would keep
having such problems likely due to embryo abnormalities. I suppose my uterus
may have not been ready after the surgery and it wasn't the embryo but I took
the good stuff-PIO, vivelle, dexamethasone, prednisone.
can these protocols be causing me an increased risk for aneuploid embryos? What
could be changed? Any comforting words that I won't face the same fate with
more IVFs that I did with the repeat IUIs? With it happening the same way all
over again, I am believing I'll never have a baby. Last year was so hard, this
IVF was hard. I’ve had to miss so much work, surgeries, U/S, procedures, etc
(I'm an attorney). And I love my husband so much. I hate that I put him through
Thank you, L. from Indiana
from the U.S. (Indiana),
First let me clarify and
emphasize to you that the IVF cycle worked, and you certainly have a good
chance that it will continue to work in the future.
Your doctor probably did not explain that IVF only gives you the
"chance" to get pregnant. It,
in fact, cannot MAKE you pregnant because the last three steps of the reproductive
process are still beyond our technology to make happen. These steps have to happen naturally (that
part is still in God's hands). So the
fact that you got pregnant on your first IVF cycle is significant because it
shows that you can get pregnant! It is
unfortunate, however, that it ended as a miscarriage.
of going through all of your previous pregnancies and this one, that would
involve a more comprehensive analysis and explanation, that is beyond this
venue. I can do that by private
Second, I think you need to get
the terms "decreased ovarian reserve" and "never" out of
your vocabulary. You DON'T have decreased ovarian
reserve. Keep in mind that in IUI
cycles, we only want up to three mature sized follicles so that you don't get
triplets, quadruplets, etc. So, your
responses were appropriate. With your
IVF cycle you were on a very low dose protocol and the yield was appropriate. .
. not too strong and not too light. You
certainly could have been stimulated a little stronger, but it looks like your
ovaries are very sensitive to the fertility medications so some care needs to
be taken, as your doctor did.
Finally, there is no technology
that can predict or evaluate for internal embryo quality.
We can evaluate chromosomes so one option you certainly could consider
with IVF is to have preimplantation genetic screening (PGS). If you decide to do PGS, I would recommend a
D#5 biopsy to reduce harm to the embryo, but your embryos would need to be
frozen and transferred at a different cycle.
But that would allow you to evaluate the genetics of the embryo prior to
transfer. Your doctor would also need to
stimulate a little stronger to have more embryos to work with and test since
surely some will return abnormal. This
will then allow you to transfer normal embryos.
clinics, doctors and the protocols they use differ and that is what influences
the pregnancy rates which vary from clinic to clinic. There are other treatment protocol options;
for example, I use low dose aspirin and low dose heparin in my recurrent pregnancy
loss patients. It has been well
documented to help. You might want to
discuss that with your doctor.
I want you to not lose hope.
You are young, your ovaries are still responsive and you've been
pregnant, so now the goal is just to get a perfect embryo so that you can have
the perfect baby. Statistically, your
chances are very very high, so you will eventually be successful. You just need to hang in there and get the
best treatment that you can. Then once
you have your baby, let me know so that I can celebrate your success as
well. You are on the road to
success. The only way you will surely
fail, is if you deviate from than road.
Like Law school, this is a hard road, and it may not be fair, but in the
end, it will be the most wonderful experience you've ever had in your
life! Greater than falling in love. It was for me, and I thank God for his
blessing that gave me my beautiful soon to be 16 year old IVF daughter. Keep the faith in your path and in
yourself. Sorry for the long answer...good
Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG Executive Medical Director The
Fertility and Gynecology Center Monterey Bay IVF Program www.montereybayivf.com