The AMA and the California Medical Association file legal suit – WellPoint and Ingenix
Posted Mar 26 2009 3:53pm
If you have kept up here on the site of late, there’s been quite a bit posted about Ingenix. The related reading below will catch you up. What is Ingenix, health insurance business intelligence in short. This is why you may hear me talk and recommend business intelligence software for hospitals and healthcare organizations, so you know what is going on at the other end when it comes to reimbursements. Without a data solution that can help you analyze what is going out, where it’s going, and more important what is coming in and how much with a few clicks of a mouse with a nice dashboard with some real time figures, you’re stuck in a long process to cumulate and present all this information in a useable format any many don’t have the time nor the money to spend to manually gather and analyze the information, so the health insurance industry has been hedging all along on this factor to be blunt.
They have the algorithms and much of healthcare has not, so they got the money in short. The Medical Association of Georgia has also joined the cause with the suit filed by the AMA. The California Nurses Association today also blasted the offer made by insurers to not hike rates for patients based on pre-existing conditions as it will still maintain the other qualification procedures that will pretty much do the same for analytical purposes. This post is also good reading, we don’t want to be fooled again, and need the “smart people” in key positions.
Once more it’s the algorithms and whistleblowers that are the two hottest trends in healthcare, and I am glad we are finding some “smart”whistleblowers that know what the algorithms and formulas are and how they create transactions, Andrew Cuomo for one. Ingenix also used medication profiles to run their complex formulas as well from prescription data and last year had profits of 1.3 billion. The quote below is from an earlier post in August of 2008 and states the drug profiles are much easier to get and take less time than having to get the records from a physician.
"Ingenix, a Minnesota-based health information services company that had $1.3 billion in sales last year -- and Wisconsin-based rival Milliman -- say the drug profiles are an accurate, less expensive alternative to seeking physician records, which can take months and hundreds of dollars to obtain. They note that consumers authorize the data release and that the services can save insurance companies millions of dollars and benefit consumers anxious for a decision.”
Hopefully we will see some good results with some of the “smart people” finally offering a challenge to those who have ruled with all the formulas and algorithms and we as a nation and our government can finally stop functioning like a PC with no anti-virus protection and rid ourselves of all the “root kits” that have turned us all into zombies. BD
Anthem Blue Cross of California parent WellPoint Inc. colluded with database firm Ingenix to fix prices in a multistate scheme to underpay doctors for so-called out-of-network medical care, physician organizations contended in a lawsuit filed Wednesday. The American Medical Assn., the California Medical Assn. and other state medical organizations said in the suit filed in federal court in Los Angeles that the scheme cost physicians millions of dollars and resulted in patients paying more than they should have.
Ingenix's price database is so widely used to set reimbursement rates that the litigation is believed to affect seven out of 10 people with health insurance. (note: this is business intelligence software at work) Indianapolis-based WellPoint said in a statement that it was committed to providing appropriate reimbursement for out-of-network services. The company said it was reviewing the suit and had no further comment.
Earlier this year, Minnetonka, Minn.-based UnitedHealth agreed to shut down the database. In exchange, New York Atty. Gen. Andrew Cuomo dropped an investigation. Cuomo had accused Ingenix of cheating patients by using faulty data to reduce out-of-network payments.
If you have kept up here on the site of late, there’s been quite a bit posted about Ingenix. The related reading below will catch you up. What is Ingenix, health insurance business intelligence in short. This is why you may hear me talk and recommend business intelligence software for hospitals and healthcare organizations, so you know what is going on at the other end when it comes to reimbursements. Without a data solution that can help you analyze what is going out, where it’s going, and more important what is coming in and how much with a few clicks of a mouse with a nice
dashboard with some real time figures, you’re stuck in a long process to cumulate and present all this information in a useable format any many don’t have the time nor the money to spend to manually gather and analyze the information, so the health insurance industry has been hedging all along on this factor to be blunt.
They have the algorithms and much of healthcare has not, so they got the money in short. The Medical Association of Georgia has also joined the cause with the suit filed by the AMA. The California Nurses Association today also blasted the offer made by insurers to not hike rates for patients based on pre-existing conditions as it will still maintain the other qualification procedures that will pretty much do the same for analytical purposes. This post is also good reading, we don’t want to be fooled again, and need the “smart people” in key positions.
Madoff's Scheme – One Reason To Put the “Smart People” in the Right Places So We Don’t Get Fooled Again
Once more it’s the algorithms and whistleblowers that are the two hottest trends in healthcare, and I am glad we are finding some “smart”whistleblowers that know what the algorithms and formulas are and how they create transactions, Andrew Cuomo for one. Ingenix also used medication profiles to run their complex formulas as well from prescription data and last year had profits of 1.3 billion. The quote below is from an earlier post in August of 2008 and states the drug profiles are much easier to get and take less time than having to get the records from a physician.
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Hopefully we will see some good results with some of the “smart people” finally offering a challenge to those who have ruled with all the formulas and algorithms and we as a nation and our government can finally stop functioning like a PC with no anti-virus protection and rid ourselves of all the “root kits” that have turned us all into zombies. BD
Doctors groups allege WellPoint's collusion cost them millions - Los Angeles Times
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