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Posted Aug 07 2010 7:32am
Hello Dr. Phillips,

          My name is David, and I am a newcomer to your blog. I bought quite
a bit of your gum/mints today, and I already had the rest of your supplies,
so I should be running at full speed in a matter of days. I am a medical
student and find your EBM approach to dentistry very satisfying and orderly
on a biochemical and microbiological level.

I had 2 questions for you, and one opinion I hoped to elicit.

First, I understand that you recommend that we gargle ACT for 2-5 minutes,
Listerine for 30 seconds, but how long do you suggest gargling the Closys?

Second, is triclosan the only reason you do not recommend Colgate Products?
I was just curious, as some of us pure water drinkers will not be using hard
water to brush our teeth with, so chloroform would not be a problem.

Third was more of an opinion question, but a DMD suggested that brushing my
teeth slightly WHILE I was gargling Listerine would it work its way into
nooks and crannies and clean the mouth even better. Do you think there is
any truth to that, or should I not bother and just gargle?

Thank you,

Hi J,

Thanks for your message and I am glad you came across the blog and have
started on the program.
Results are usually felt, then noticed and finally they make you so happy,
you become an advocate to others!
Question 1)
The rinse time is based on what they DO....for example;
Closys is "deep cleaning" your gums so let it bathe teeth at the back of
your mouth or ones you know are prone to bleed or have inflammation,
calculus or pocketing.

A one minute "washing machine-type" swish (gentle with a little motion)
for about 60 seconds will work great!

Listerine is your 'liquid floss". Vigorous swishing - in and out push and
pull with your cheeks - squish the liquid between your teeth in and out for
a short time.

Listerine is acidic/corrosive if you use it too long - so quick and vigorous
to remove plaque and clean between teeth. 30 seconds works fine!

ACT - this is your "moisturizing mouth bath" Let ACT "soak" into the
outside of your teeth quenching dry enamel....moisturizing the

Give ACT some time, since the longer ACT is in contact with the teeth the
more strength and beauty they will have!

No need for vigorous swishing or gargling -keep this in your mouth with a
gentle swish....2-3 minutes will be great!
Spit out and then don't eat or drink for half an hour.

Question 2)
I am not a fan of triclosan not a fan of toothpaste made with chalk not
a fan of stannous fluoride in toothpaste.
No other strong feelings except be careful of the abrasion factor.

Question 3)
You should read my book Kiss Your Dentist Goodbye I think you would enjoy

Acidity in the mouth is always a problem. Acidity softens enamel and makes
it easy to brush away ( erode away). Since tooth enamel dissolves at pH
lower than pH 5.5 and root surfaces at a pH of 6.5. I would not suggest you
brush your teeth with any liquid that has a pH lower than pH 7.00.

Listerine has a pH of 4.2 (very acidic) so brushing with Listerine
could erode both enamel and root surfaces very easily.

Plaque is a bacterial build up regular amounts of xylitol will
eradicate plaque and make it less adhesive so your rinses will wash it away.

Hope this helps thanks so much for your message.

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Rochester, NY 14623
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