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What does the CDC say about not vaccinating?

Posted Feb 20 2009 7:22pm 2 Comments
Taken from a PDF document found onthis pageunder "What if you don't immunize your child?":

We strongly encourage you to immunize your child, but ultimately the decision is yours. Please discuss any concerns you have with a trusted healthcare provider or call the immunization coordinator at your local or state health department. Your final decision affects not only the health of your child, but also the rest of your family, the health of your child’s friends and their families, classmates, neighbors, and community.

Without immunizations, your child can infect others.
  • Children who are not immunized can transmit vaccine-preventable diseases throughout the community. Unvaccinated people can pass diseases on to babies who are too young to be fully immunized.
  • Unvaccinated people pose a threat to children and adults who can’t be immunized for medical reasons. This includes people with leukemia and other cancers, HIV/AIDS and other immune system problems, and persons receiving chemotherapy, radiation therapy, or large doses of corticosteroids.
  • Unvaccinated people can infect the small percentage of children whose immunizations did not “take.”

Reading this brochure puzzles me and even insults my intelligence in a few ways. First of all, they use the label "unvaccinated people," when what they really mean is "sick people." Being "unvaccinated" does not make a person the carrier of a disease! Being sick does. An unvaccinated person is not the same as a sick person! And vaccinated people can get sick too, because vaccines do not necessarily confer immunity.

In fact, many times it is the vaccine itself that makes that person sick. While our society believes that smallpox and polio were eradicated by vaccines, if you look at the actual numbers, people got sick from these inoculations, with disease rates increasing after mass vaccination programs started. Many sources (doctors and historical records) say that these diseases declined naturally, having been on their way out before vaccination even began.

Which brings me to the second thing, and that is that when we are vaccinated, it is possible to "shed" the germs from the vaccine (I've read about this in vaccine package inserts and various articles). So really, those dangerous "unvaccinated" people are sometimes the ones at risk of catching disease from the vaccinated ones, not the other way around.

Third, this brochure uses the word "immunize" to mean "vaccinate." Technically, the terms are not interchangeable, even though the vast majority of medical texts use them like this. The word "immunize" literally means to make immune. Vaccines are an attempt at making us immune, but they do not guarantee immunity. Even this brochure hints at that when it says, "Unvaccinated people can infect the small percentage of children whose immunizations did not 'take.'"

I am sure there are truths in this brochure as well, but I am somewhat distracted by the way it misleads. Here, the reader is led to believe that unvaccinated people are dirty and can't be around the rest of society because of the risk they pose. It's things like this that make me now question almost everything the CDC says. It shouldn't be like this! I'm just a layperson, and I shouldn't have to question public health expertise like this. I just want the truth. I just want to know what real health problems have resulted from vaccination, and I want real numbers. I'm tired of feeling like I have to figure this out for myself.

Oh, so you'll see I added the CDC Vaccination home page to my sidebar. This is for research purposes for anyone who wants to see what they have to say. But personally, I can't help it if I read their site with the proverbial grain of salt.

Oh yea, and I still haven't heard back from them regarding my phone message about Prevnar ( I called about a month ago to ask why Prevnar vaccine is not tested for carcinogenicity, mutagenic effects or impairment of fertility). Since then, I've found a few other vaccine inserts that state the same thing - they aren't tested for these things before they're mandated for our kids. And the CDC has yet to tell me why not. If you want to call them, I'll tell you that number again: 404-639-8256. Have at it, and let me know if you get any answers.

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Regarding your comment:  First of all, they use the label "unvaccinated people," when what they really mean is "sick people." Being "unvaccinated" does not make a person the carrier of a disease! Being sick does. An unvaccinated person is not the same as a sick person! 

I have to disagree with you here.  Although an unvaccinated person is clearly NOT the same as a sick person, a healthy person who has not been vaccinated still does increase the risk to those who are too young to be vaccinated or cannot for the other reasons mentioned.  That is because, even though one may be healthy, a body that has not had a vaccine to generate specific immunity has a greater likelihood of being able to contract and pass along the disease.

You make an excellent point about he words "immunize" and vaccinate", and one that not many pick up on.  In this brochure, however, the wording still holds true.  "Children who are not immunized can transmit vaccine-preventable diseases throughout the community."  This is true even as written, for even if a person was vaccinated, if the vaccination did not take and the person has not been "immunized" (according to your more specific/accurate defintion), these individuals can still spread an illness. 

To know if a vaccine truly did immunize you, I suggest having a titer drawn -- a simple blood test that will be checked to see if your body really is immune to any specific condition.  For example, I had the chicken pox as a child.  When it was suggested that I get a varicella vaccine, I opted for the titer instead, which showed that my body had already aquired active immunity to that disease.  Had it not shown that, I would have opted to receive the varicella vaccine. The same can be performed for nearly all vaccinatable conditions and does not pose any risk to the patient.  At least then you know if you even need some of the vaccines (for example, it is possible to have a case of some disaeses so mild that you did not even know you had it and yet your body was able to acquire sufficient immunity to them).

I whole heartedly agree that we should all become informed consumers and read everything with a critical eye -- whether it comes from the government, a vendor, or even "healthy alternative" website.  I though I would add my comments to your points to just shed some light from another perspective.  Thanks.

First of all thanks a lot for the useful and interesting post. I am very interested in medicine so I always like to read all pusblications about this sphere. Reading this post I have known very interesting facts about vaccinnes indeed. Well, I have heard that even such stars like Shawna Lenee vaccinates before winter. So do I. I have never thought that it is something bad for our health... Well, I will definitely try to find more information about vaccinating in your website. Thanks a lot for informing us.
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